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W111 280SE Coupe central locking - none of the doors lock anymore - vacuum pump or pillar reservoir

Started by Hugo_Darlinghurst, 04-12-2011 02:48 PM. 14 replies. 3,071 views.
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Gentlemen. A diagnostic question.

1969 280SE Coupe (HVS 8847-K). The vacuum-operated central locking has stopped functioning. None of the four doors lock or unlock from the driver actuator. The driver's lock plunger itself works mechanically (key-operated). The other three plungers do not move at all.

The pump under the rear seat runs when I depress the actuator (audible). Vacuum gauge at the pillar reservoir shows 0 inHg. Vacuum gauge at the pump output shows 18 inHg. The line between pump output and reservoir is the suspect, but I would like to confirm before pulling trim.

Is anyone aware of a common failure point in the line that I can check before disassembly?

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Hugo..

The W111 Coupe vacuum line from pump to reservoir runs along the inside of the right rear quarter panel, behind the trim card, then transitions through a grommet into the C-pillar.. the most common failure point is at that grommet - the rubber perishes and the line either pulls out or the connection cracks at the right-angle bend just past the grommet.

Pull the right rear quarter trim only. You will see the line. Inspect at the grommet first. 80% of cases it is there.

If the line is intact at the grommet, the second failure point is the rubber elbow inside the C-pillar where the line connects to the reservoir. That requires headliner drop. Less common but I have seen it twice.

Do not blame the reservoir itself before inspecting the line. The reservoir is a steel sphere and rarely fails.

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Vasilios.. pulled the right rear quarter trim this morning. Line had pulled out of the grommet entirely, the rubber is rotted and the right-angle fitting is cracked at the bend..

Ordering line + grommet today. MB Classic Centre has both in stock, about EUR 65 the pair. Installing tomrrow.

Saved me 8 hours of trim disassembly. Drinks owed.

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Hugo. No drinks owed. Steve walked me through this one in 2011 on a 220SEb. The grommet failure is consistent across the Heckflosse, the W111 Coupe, and the early W108.

If you want to make it last, when you fit the new line, use a wrap of self-amalgamating rubber tape at the grommet entry. Not original but stops the next failure for another 30 years.

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